And the chart is excellent by the way.

Please re-read my blog above. There was nothing in there where I said that a man was only a man if he was willing to fight nor is that what I believe to be true.

A man is not defined by his willingness to fight but if he is backed into a corner, or protecting his family, he had better fight very well.

I have several gay male friends and relatives. They are real men, being a men is not dependent on sexual preference.

I like the chart on this webpage and I think it says it better than I could, check out the table at this link:

http://www.diserio.com/malematrix.html

Again, I don’t know where you got the “real men must fight” idea but it was not from what I wrote.

Randal

“Men are no longer men”
This is going to lead to a biiiig long rant, apologies in advance.
I don’t understand what you mean by men not still being men. They are just as much so as ever. A willingness to physically fight does not make one a man. In fact, one of the great things that men should have in common with beasts is a reluctance to fight, to fight only for a true purpose. I don’t think people starting barfights over a name called are real men.
One of my dear friends is talking to me and just said “Well, maybe he means homosexuals, they aren’t real men.” This is to you both.
Some of them aren’t. The ones who hide away because they are scared of what their family will think, the ones who refuse to fight for their rights, aren’t real men. The ones who admit the are gay and are damn proud are real men because that takes the courage of a true warrior.
Just throwing the idea out there.
Also, I would probably be very hard pressed to start a real physical fight with someone, but this doesn’t mean I couldn’t be a warrior. The stronger warrior uses thought before fists. Example, and an obvious one I’ll admit, was Ghandi. Look at how much he changed things for the better with entirely passive actions. He didn’t need to use physical violence to be a warrior, or a man. If not having the good old fighting spirit, meaning jumping directly to grab the guns and hunt those mofos down, means you aren’t a man… I’m damn glad I don’t associate with real men.